MAJOR Official Announcement - DELAVO 2.0

[John Delavera]

Hi everybody

It is with great pride and pleasure that I make the
following announcement.

We are about to make some major changes to DELAVO that are
going to have huge profit-producing impact on everyone.

As you may know I've recently become great friends with
Internet Marketing legend, Mark Joyner. You know the impact
Mark has had on the industry - they call him "Godfather"
for good reason: he is responsible for most of the
innovations that have allowed us all to profit so
wonderfully from the Internet over the last decade.

Mark and I have become like brothers: both personally and
professionally. Recently, I spent a week with Mark and some
major revelations came from this meeting.

Mark said, "John Delavo is amazing, but you're doing it all wrong."

If it had been anyone but Mark I would have said: pshaw!

Mark proceed to outline for me some changes to make to
DELAVO and my jaw began to drop.

I can't wait to show you what we have planned!

Now...

Part of the changes coming are going to require some
MAJOR SHIRTS in the way DELAVO is delivered and
ESPECIALLY through HOSTED ACCOUNTS.

Here is what you'll happen on January:

- Mark Joyner's company is going to be the sole point
of sale for Delavo - and we are now backed up by his
massive infrastructure and team.

- We shall release DELAVO 2.0

- The following features won't be included to DELAVO 2.0

. Roles' option and functionality
. Resellers tab and functionality

This means that we will no longer be able to support the
version of DELAVO that supports Roles, hosted accounts, etc.

Now, before you react to this news, hear this: if you are
currently selling DELAVO Hosted Accounts we have a plan to
transition your customers under the new system and make you
A LOT MORE money.

Indeed, the things we have planned are going to create a
tidal wave of profit for all concerned - the likes of which
have not been seen since the gold rush days of the net.

If you do offer hosted accounts please let us now
by posting a message here and we'll contact you personally
to discuss this transition with you.

If you like, you can also initiate the conversation yourself
by sending an email to

transition AT delavo.com (replace AT with @)

Be sure to tell us

1. How many customers you have been servicing
through hosted accounts

2. How much you are charging them per month

Also:

- New licenses of DELAVO will be time limited.

- The prices for the DELAVO Plugins are going to go up
when sold separately, while different membership levels
will give you the option to choose an instant delivery
of the Plugins in the future without paying separately
per Plugin.

- Ambassadors will get new instructions for delivering
the licenses alrready ordered through a NEW system.

In Summary:

DELAVO 2.0 starts a New Era.

If you want to get the most of the benefits from the amazing
things we have in store, you may upgrade to the new version.

There will be a monthly fee involved for getting the Plugins
based on your membership's level, but we realized that this
is the ONLY Way to keep DELAVO "state of the art."

I wonder...

...if you realize how important this email is?

We are standing at the precipice of something huge,
and you are going to be a part of it.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to
contact us right away either by posting your message
here or by sending us a message to the email address
mentioned above.

With pleasure,

John Delavera & Mark Joyner

[paolo orlando]

I hope the value of our investment in F1.18 package and more plugins will be protected coz for us it was a big effort.I dont see how we will do with our customers and also i say it again we are very worried about the meaning of all that.We trust John will protect us and do not throw in the air the value of what we bought only some months ago.
Also the licences of Delavo that we got as bonuses or that we bought how they are going to mantain their value if all is gonna change?
And what about the memberships we sold allready that are in conjunction with other services and products?i will really appreciate if somebody will answer us not slogans but seriously.
Our level is not guru level but our work have to be respected because for us they are important even 5 memberships we sell or 3-4 softwares one time.This is the money we are able to make online at the moment and it will be a mess if all that will be devalued by exactly our mentors.
I hope all of that has been thinked before to decide those major changes and we are waiting to know whic will be the solution.
I start selling hosted accounts one month ago and i have 2 bronze packages sold and 2 golds.We charge 27 € per month bronze packages and 79€ per month the complete one.Those packages are not only DELAVO use but also autoresponder hosting and products.
WE where close to launch another site in 2 weeks but now we will have to change all our plans to see what it will happen.Some answers will be appreciated
Thanks
Paolo Orlando
Rome Italy

[Andrew Wong]

Hi John,

Does that mean that any updates to Delavo from here on out will require some kind of membership subscription?

Andrew

[Dian Ferdinand]

Hi John & Mark

Learning to harness the power of DELAVO features takes a lot of practice. I do not see taking out roles and reseller features would benefit us in long term.

I love using roles as I can assign each roles to have different properties and reseller (is just a great idea from the start) why the best feature was taken out.

One of the best feature that is lacked is simpli.ci.ty ( I respect Mark Ideas on it) and why not let's make that for example having a lot of plugins. Who have used it to the max? I personally can say that using DELAVO for my client is quite confusing for them like there is no personal tracking (we need to track with creating campaign)

I think 3 steps of ordering system is great but I think there should be like a new plugin or interface where we can choose 3 steps or one full page ordering (imagine the easiness of getting everything from upsell, to details)

I also found that most of the guys when they were asked the parameters in DELAVO were shocked and fell out of the chair. I learned DELAVO quite a lot and have done a few services and for me is easier with ROLES and Resellers

Imagine the more Support Ticket where people will be asking why don't this work and such and hosted DELAVO ? I would say if I want to use my DELAVO as central one I also need the hosted for other domain I host especially since I do a lot of micro joint ventures with 2 or 3 marketers they don't need to login to my main DELAVO panel but they can access the same DELAVO without interrupting my main one.

I can say so much more. I hope that this taken into consideration as I have followed DELAVO since its previous version FANTASOS.

[Fred Lotgering]

Hi John,

I love Delavo!

Since its introduction a few months ago I started to discover the power of Delavo, started the journey, planned the way I was going to make money with Delavo, bought plug-ins, moved accounts, became an ambassador, prepared new websites, started preparing hosted accounts....

Now all comes to an end. Not sure how to proceed.

Delavo 2.0 starts a new era!

What does make the difference between a good idea and a better idea?
Implementation.

Let's implement! Quickly please...

Fred

[John Delavera]

People

There will be replies both here and also to your email messages.

Patience.

John

[Yuan Yudistira]

John,..

I am a big fan of delavo. One of the reasons is Role Plugins.

I sell hosted account, and have several members.
And I do have a big plan on 2010 playing more with roles.

Please protect our investment ....


Thanks


Yuan

[DigitalDeen]

I don't sell hosted accounts YET. It's on my agenda to do though.

The monthly support fee is what is going to hurt though. Right now I've got a support ticket that's about 2 months old and no resolution to the problem. Last time I emailed for an update I didn't even get an answer. And this isn't the only problem that has gone unresolved. Will this improve?

I (as many others) have spent a lot of money on JVManager, then Fantasos and now DELAVO. Money that I haven't even come close to making back. An increase in costs (another monthly fee) will have me thinking about another solution.

[Joe sol]

I know these changes are going to cause difficulty for some.. but did you really think this wasn't going to happen?. John is one of the sharpest marketers online... and Mark... well he is the godfather of Internet marketing.. he was one of the first to sell marketing tools and services online.. I know because if was one his first customers... What I am saying is I have been around since the beginning... and have watched these guys... they are doing the right thing... for their businesses and their families... and they do NOT need to apologize to us for doing it...

As for a mass exidous where are you going to go?... there is no other software available that does what Delavo does... sure you can go out and buy 10-15 scripts.. and get most of the functionality .. but it will not be integrated into one easy to use control panel...

I for one never got real serious about delavo... because it was free and I knew John isnt going to give the store away...

I use JV1 it works fine and meets all of my needs.. the best part.. no additional costs....

NO DRAMA!!

new isn't always better!

Joe

[John Zebrun]

Wow! This is one active thread. Maybe you should put a flaming icon next to it.

With so many questions being raised here, I'm waiting to see if there will be a Delaverian rabbit pulled out of the hat.

I'm glad to see you're putting something in place for the Ambassadors - details still to come.

I have another question related to the loss of the Roles function. Currently I use Ralph's very nice 3rd party script to manage the web hosting accounts I sell, and that script relies on the Roles function to manage the web hosting packages. Will Delavo 2.0 changes render that script useless, or will there be some other provision so that I can still use Delavo to centralize such operations?

J Zebrun
QiiCart.com

[Jeff Sinclair]

The news is still fresh and incomplete.
But the first whiff - don't smell so nice.

So far the forum weather is hot to the negative.

I've heard about MJ's farewell but the big COMEBACK is somewhat
being felt here. Among other alliances I see as a big MJ acquisition drive.

Industries sometimes beg for consolidation. And need an MJ to act.

I feel MJ could only have made an 'unrefusable' (shall I say - irresistible)
offer.

And who can judge you if you decide to take it. Hey, bizniz is bizniz.

I'm clearly in suspence of what's to come.

[John Delavera]

Hi people

Every change in the software that started as JVManager was
accompanied by various feelings - both negative and
positive ones.

Every change ended up to a better software and all people
became happy again.

Isn't this what counts - eventually?

On the changes now:

What does really matter for you?

The money you make now? OR the money you CAN make?

People that enter the IM realm tend to believe that "it's
not possible" to make money online. After some efforts and
years, they realize that everything is possible: Once you
IMAGINE it, BELIEVE in it and keep thinking POSITIVE.

I'd suggest everybody to participate in a positive way to a
conversation that will direct us all to a win-win scenario.

In all cases YOUR benefit is to have a development and
support team that will SUPPORT YOUR DREAMS.

That is my personal target too.

More soon,

John Delavera

p.s. Yes, posts are now moderated in the forum.
Its purpose and the reason of existence is to safeguard
DELAVO and adds to it. That should be our common
characteristic here. Time will show anyway - as always.

[Mark Joyner]

Hey guys, I think I’d jump in here and post something about the move.

I rarely post in bulletin boards, so please forgive me in advance if I don’t jump in and reply to everyone. As you can imagine I’m quite busy working with John to take Delavo to the next level.

First, before anyone jumps on John about deleting the flames - don't jump on him - jump on me. I recommended we do that and also start moderating the board. Flames and angry posts just don't help to move the conversation constructively forward. They never have - they never will.

I don't know about you, but personally if I go to a bulletin board I don't want to have my mood taken down.

No offense to anyone ... Hey, let's discuss the issues you have offline - we'll get it worked out - we don't need to flame John in the process. This guy has worked his butt off for all of us.

On that note, I want to remind everyone of the concept of “the frame.” We can frame this event in any way we like. We could probably come up with equally cogent-sounding explanations for this event arguing either way: good move – bad move. Might I suggest we interpret the event in a way that empowers all of us rather than disempowers all of us?

All I can do is give my transparent thought process … And I can also say this: John is a fantastic human being with a great heart and great intentions. If he wasn’t I wouldn’t be doing this deal with him. Every step of the way John has kept the best interest of you, the customers, in mind. In fact we talked for hours over various aspects to make sure everyone would be given a fair shake – and more.

That’s the John Delavera I know – and it’s the John Delavera you all know as well. This guy has put many many sleepless nights into taking care of customers and improving his "baby" - what has evolved into Delavo and will now evolve even more. Keep that in mind as you read.

Also, remember this is a conversation – our plan here is to come up with a solution that:

a. Takes Delavo to the next level (it sure deserves it)
b. Takes care of everyone – and beyond (there is a great road ahead here where we can all profit)
c. Leaves no one “in the lurch” – period

So, what are we all trying to accomplish here?

Seriously – let’s all consider that.

Isn’t it to make a profit?

You want to use Delavo to make a profit for your business. Delavo as a product is in business to make profit too. (Hey, go figure ;-)

If we’re not all unabashed capitalists, what are we doing here?

So, how is capital created? It’s by creating value – and putting that value out on the market with an economic model that makes sense.

There was a flaw in the economic model of Delavo.

See, a massive body of code like this requires a Herculean amount of effort to maintain. It needs to evolve and it needs to adapt. It also needs to support its customers.

Selling it as buy-once solution doesn’t pay respect to the complexity of the project – and it doesn’t create an economic model that can support the evolution of it - or the customers who use it. You want better support? You want more upgrades? Well, we don't have a team of Delavo-elves on hand that work for free ;-)

If a company doesn’t make a decision like this based on what will be a sustainable business proposition, it will go the way of most companies (footnotes in history books – if even that).

That’s the reality, guys.

Look at the graveyard of businesses and you’ll see oh so many that were built around business models that were based on hope rather than economic reality.

Making it a subscription product allows the code to be maintained properly – and greatly improved as you’ll see.

Delavo is amazingly great software. As far as I'm concerned nothing even comes close. We're finally going to evolve it into what it deserves to be. Please keep in mind that this is the first time Construct Zero has made a public move like this to partner with a software solution created outside of our team (aside from ARP - which is another interesting story you'll see soon). We developed an in-house solution for our own needs that was similar to Delavo. Delavo was BETTER. That should say something.

In fact, we're migrating our entire operation to the new Delavo. We do a tremendous volume of traffic and sales. We're entrusting all of that to this new platform. Translation: we have a vested interest on many levels to ensure this platform is stable and great. John's team can now focus on doing just that.

Now, pretty soon we’ll be revealing exactly what the plans are – and what the opportunities are for you.

In the meantime, I’d like to suggest the following:

1. If you have a concern with this – contact us directly transition@delavo.com … we’ll work it out. John is an exceptionally reasonable guy who has your best interests in mind.

2. Let’s keep this thread positive. We can talk ourselves into success or failure with how we react to events. That’s a choice we make every moment. I know the choice I want to make every day. Are you with me?

I mean, is it really necessary to flame John without even writing directly and discussing options?

Guys, you may not realize it, but as the early users of this software you have some huge opportunities ahead of you. My plan is to allow a large number of people to prosper greatly right alongside John with this new phase. If you want to be one of them, that opportunity is most definitely there.


Mark Joyner
Founder and CEO
Construct Zero
http://www.ConstructZero.ORG

[Andre Foisy]

Mark,

Thank you for your insight.

I'm willing to guess we're all capitalists here and understand quite vigorously
what's the viability of a system and what needs to be done the be kept alive.

Of course, I've been following this thread and event very closely since this
morning and saw and read all the concerns. You seems to present an open
mind in regards to those who are here and spent much time and money for
this system, plus planned way ahead on the functions of a platform that was
presented, available and bought by them.

Of course all that is being said here by John and you sounds very positive, so
let's just hope that one can keep the privileges one bought and won with
one's efforts and hard earned money in a FAIR manner while not necessarely
interfering with your plans.

Thanks a bunch.

[Mark Joyner]

Hey Andre, totally appreciate that.

Exactly - the idea here is that not only will the existing customers be taken care of (erring totally on the side of generosity), but we'll be creating opportunities for them as well.

For Delavo power users, there will be some great opportunities here to offer a new form Ambassadorship to new customers. (Maybe we'll call them Delavo Angels? :-)

For people who want to sell Delavo, there is going to be not only a very generous affiliate opportunity, but also an opportunity to be a certified hosting provider.

And that's just the beginning.

There's a way to transition everyone into a much more profitable future here.

John and I talked about this at length when we met and we knew: this ain't gonna be easy, but we're going to stand up right beside each customer and make sure they are transitioned into something with a much brighter future.

MJ

[Yuzairy Samsudin]

Now, pretty soon we’ll be revealing exactly what the plans are – and what the opportunities are for you.

Any timeline on when your plans will be detailed out?
Especially for power users?

That would somewhat put our minds at ease and decide whether to stay with the current version without support or go to 2.0.

Thanks

[Mark Joyner]

Hey Yuzairy,

We're targeting around 21 January ... We're moving as quickly as we can ...

Guys: please do not worry about anything. We're not going to put anyone in an unfair situation. If we need to transition you in any way, it will be done gracefully and fairly - and with great sensitivity toward your situation, what you paid for, and so on ...

Past users are going to be treated with extreme generosity.

MJ

[Scott Anson]

Hi John,

I just want to let you and everyone know that I have never had a lack of vision. Quite contrary.

I have always had long and far reaching vision. Until I found John or should I say until John found me, my vision(s) was about all I had.

My mind and ideas were always so far ahead of my actions and accomplishments that I continued to dream new and greater visions without much to show for it because I could never really completely materialize anything without the newer visions getting in the way.

Sure I had a small list and made a sale or two here and there, but I never really had a solid foundation for the business that I wanted to create.

After studying what I can from John I have learned many useful technics, tricks of the trade, how to be the rapid bunny, and much much more. I've learned the most useful philosophy I believe in business to be centralization.

Centralization gets me so excited that sometimes I loose focus on everything else...

does that make sense?

The all out most important thing I have learned from John is to trust what he says. Period.

I don't mean to just blindly trust as if he were God. What I mean is to trust with confidence.

Why?

Because John has proven over and over that he has our best interest at heart and he always delivers more than he promises.

I am fortunate enough to have had the opportunity to converse privately with John. When I write to John I always sign off with: "Your friend and fan" before I sign my name.

I do that because I am a fan. Fan, as we all know is short for fanatic. So I am a John Delavera "fanatic". But above that I am a friend to John. John is a friend to me. We have a business relationship as well as a personal friendship.

Both of which are built on TRUST!

Your friend and fan,
Scott

[Michael Wright]

Who is in control the rider or the horse?

The horse is of course.

The rider is not in control until it trains the horse.

The rider is the conscious. The horse is the subconscious.

It looks as if some riders don't control the horse.

Emotions need to be trained just as the horse does.

A response is needed not a reaction.

If the doctor said your body responded to the medication this is great.

If the doctor said your body reacted to the medication this is not good.

Looking forward to being a Delavo Angel:)

Mike

[Dian Ferdinand]

Hi Mark

Surprisingly it's my first time to talk online with you here regarding DELAVO

My main concern is this:
As a DELAVO avid user once we made decision to stay with the current version do we get future updates of bugs and so forth ?

if we move to DELAVO 2.0 with paid subscription what do we get other than the license to use DELAVO 2.0, I have followed the journey of JV Manager to Fantasos to DELAVO and surely DELAVO 2.0 seems like a surprise to my view.

I am sure that John will work out something better for all of us :) he always think of the best of it. Just a lot of concern with how basic things work in DELAVO like reseller and role (this is really core feature that I used day to day)

Can't wait to see what is the real strong point of DELAVO 2.0

[DigitalDeen]

Thanks for the post. Kind of helps since it appears that some thought has been given to the "change".

Delavo is a huge investment for some of us in both money and time. Right now I'm still awaiting more of John's "Delavo Special Class" postings to help me over the learning mountain!

Yes, a person/script/program must make a profit, both for the user and provider or there's no reason to continue. Delavo is the best program out there of those I've tried. As an Ambassador I hope my add'l investment pays off.

Since there really isn't much info available yet I suggest EVERYONE (me included!!) back off and lets see what transpires. I don't believe either you or John would do anything to jeopardize Delavo or it's buyer/users

[Paula Fugaro]

Let's wait and see...

I started with Fantasos and upgraded to Delavo with the F1.18 package, so the removal of the roles and hosting functionality in Delavo 2.0 will directly affect me.

The fact is that a change to a core business system such as this is always difficult because it means we have to change our own business plans and systems.

However, change is quite inevitable and I appreciate that John and Mark are making an effort to prepare us as much as possible for that change ahead of time, as well as offering a dialogue to discuss those changes with people who will be in any way affected. And I'm sure not just a dialogue, but some real solutions to their very real concerns.

As others have said here, let's all take a deep breath and think about how we can each best move forward with the changes that will be revealed more explicitly on January 21.

Paula.

[DennisGerik]

John (& Mark),

First off, thanks for starting this open dialogue. Change of this magnitude will certainly create strong feelings on both sides of the spectrum. However, only with change can there be advancement.

Given John's track record so far, I have no doubt that any changes are being very well thought out and he is considering the impact to all his followers and customers. In that, I will place my trust. John has not steered me wrong yet...and I don't expect him to do so now.

I am not as familiar with Mark and his business, but if John has developed a relationship with him, then he must be a pretty good businessman and good person. So, in that, I will also place my trust.

Business is ALL ABOUT CHANGE, and John's is no different. We have all placed our trust in him by deciding to use the Delavo platform to run our business. Let's give him the courtesy to continue making this the best system possible.

With that said, I cannot wait to see what is coming next...as I expect it to be HUGE!