Feature Requests

[Yuzairy Samsudin]

Feature request:

Aweber/Turboautoresponder.com integration:
Option to specify js tracking links to track stats.

<script type="text/javascript" src="http://forms.aweber.com/form/xx/xxxxxxxxx.js"></script>

This js should be displayed only ONCE on the thank you page.
That way the subscriber won't be counted again if s/he re-visits the page.

[John Delavera]

Hmm...

What if you attach an OTO with just that line of code...

John

[Yuzairy Samsudin]

Hmm...

What if you attach an OTO with just that line of code...

John


That's what I did currently.
Are u reading my mind? :D

[Steven Hancock]

On the subject of aweber and turboautoresponders, I'd like to see a way "out of the box" to add subscribers to those systems without violating their terms of service (turboautoresponders is powered by aweber, who doesn't allow scripted subscribe by email because they don't get the user's IP address). I know Fantasos supported parsers, I haven't been able to figure out if that's included in DELAVO out of the box or not. Another way to do it (and this would work with every autoresponder) would be a "post in the background" javascript like Butterfly Marketing uses.

If they're not already in the works, it would be nice to see support for certain autoresponder APIs (like GetResponse and MailChimp) either included "out of the box" or available as low cost plugins.

[Yuzairy Samsudin]

this has been debated at great length over at the warriorforum.com.
Pay particular attention to John post here:
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/84666-aweber-third-party-scripts-how.html

[Steven Hancock]

I've seen that thread, but that doesn't really solve the problem of adding DELAVO's users to an autoresponder without violating the terms of service of any Aweber-powered autoresponder (and possibly others). I don't think the Javascript solution would violate their terms of service, since technically it is initiated by the user filling out and submitting a form, and Aweber gets a full audit trail including the user's IP address.

It also doesn't solve the problem of some autoresponders not allowing subscribe by email at all. MailChimp is a great autoresponder service (deliverability is right up there with Aweber and GetResponse.. prices are reasonable and they offer an API that puts GetResponse's to shame) but subscribe by email is not an option with them. All subscriptions have to be through a form or through the API.

[John Delavera]

Always :)



Hmm...

What if you attach an OTO with just that line of code...

John


That's what I did currently.
Are u reading my mind? :D

[Ray Ashcraft]

Hi John,

There are two features I'd like to see regarding affiliates

1) I'd like a way for the affiliate ID to disappear from the address bar after being recorded and properly cookied.

2) I'd like to see the option for affiliates to gain lifetime customers. Once a person buys through an affiliates
link that customers future purchases also get credited to the affiliate who originally introduced them to the system?

What are the chances?

Thanks

Ray

[Steven Hancock]

Ray, your first feature could be done with a couple lines of javascript in your sales pages (I'd say do it with a PHP redirect, but you want to make sure DELAVO's javascript runs first to cookie the customer).

Not sure about the second feature working out of the box since I don't know much about how DELAVO works internally.. but I'm sure once there are some plugins available to handle more than the basic "subscribe by email" functionality you'll probably be able to include the affiliate ID in your autoresponder followups.

[Hue Anne]

While some people like the idea of lifetime affiliates, others do not.
I am one that does not so I would oppose such a change.

My feeling is that the last affiliate to send someone to a sales page
is the one that deserves the credit if the customer purchases the
product. Why? Because the first affiliate did not convince the
customer to buy but the later affilaite did, so the later affiliate
deserves the commission.

Donna

[Ray Ashcraft]

Donna,

I agree with your entire statement.

Please read the post again

this is the relevant part.

""Once a person buys through an affiliates
link that customers future purchases..."


Ray

[Ray Ashcraft]

Ray, your first feature could be done with a couple lines of javascript in your sales pages (I'd say do it with a PHP redirect, but you want to make sure DELAVO's javascript runs first to cookie the customer).

Not sure about the second feature working out of the box since I don't know much about how DELAVO works internally.. but I'm sure once there are some plugins available to handle more than the basic "subscribe by email" functionality you'll probably be able to include the affiliate ID in your autoresponder followups.


Steven,



JavaScript isn't my strong point but it shouldn't be hard to find thanks for the idea.



Ray

[Andre Vas]

There's already tons of UNdone feature requests in Fantasos "Feature Request" forum that one expects will be now carried on with addition in Delavo.

[Hue Anne]

Hi Ray

I did read your post completely and do not agree that once a
customer purchases something through an affilaite, that
customer is the affiliates customer for life.

Another affiliate may spend lots of time with a customer but if
that customer "belongs" to another affiliate, the 2nd affiliate
will not get credit. This is unfair espercially if the 1st affiliate
NEVER promotes to that customer again. Why should that first
affiliate profit from the work of other affiliates?

Donna


Donna,

I agree with your entire statement.

Please read the post again

this is the relevant part.

""Once a person buys through an affiliates
link that customers future purchases..."


Ray

[Yuzairy Samsudin]

1) I'd like a way for the affiliate ID to disappear from the address bar after being recorded and properly cookied.


Insert this line of code AFTER your aff.js code
<script>jvmRedirectToHideAffId()</script>


[quote=Ray Ashcraft]
2) I'd like to see the option for affiliates to gain lifetime customers. Once a person buys through an affiliates
]
The current practice is that the last affiliate gets the sale.
You can't FORCE the system to credit the original affiliate that refers the customer.

BUT...

You can parse the affiliate ID say to your autoresponder account and include it in ALL outgoing messages.
For future sales, the cookie will be set (with the original aff) everytime s/he clicks the link from your followup.
It still achieve what you want....

BUT...

If after s/he clicks the link in the email then gets cookied again (e.g. clicking a link from another affiliate site), then the 'other' affiliate gets the sale.

IMHO this is a fair practice.

And yes, it can be done with Delavo (no plugin required).

[Steven Hancock]

Insert this line of code AFTER your aff.js code
<script>jvmRedirectToHideAffId()</script>


Awesome.. I didn't realize that function existed, but it would have been easy enough to code by hand in javascript.


And yes, it can be done with Delavo (no plugin required).

How? I didn't see anything about this in the manuals or videos, and as far as I can tell the built in "subscribe by email" system for adding members to your autoresponder doesn't send any data that can be parsed (I tested it by having it send to one of my gmail accounts and signing up a test account in my Delavo system, all it sends is "subscribe me"). If there's a way to have it send data that can be parsed like that, I'd love to know, I use an autoresponder that doesn't allow any form of "subscribe by email" but does have a pretty extensive API so if this is possible I could write an email parser to run on my own server and add members to my autoresponder that way.

[Yuzairy Samsudin]

It's under 'Enable TurboAutoresponder integration' when creating a Package.
There's a list of tags that you can use (refer to contextual help).

[Steven Hancock]

Ok, so it only works for packages and not the "on signup" or "affiliate" autoresponders? Thanks, I think I can probably work with that, as long as it gives me (at minimum) name, email address and IP address I'm sure I can come up with something that complies with my autoresponder's terms of service.

edit: I don't see that option anywhere in my create packages screen. I notice you mentioned in another thread that you were a Fantasos customer, are you sure this is an out of the box feature and not something that was added by the Fantasos plugin?

[Yuzairy Samsudin]

you're right, the aweber integration is only available using a plugin.

i'm not sure which one as I got the F1.18 package.
Maybe its Customized Forms (Order & User registration) plugin?

[Hue Anne]

Aweber Integration is a separate plug-in

Donna

[Yuzairy Samsudin]

Aweber Integration is a separate plug-in

Donna


I don't see the "Aweber Integration" per se in the listing of the F1.18 package.
???

[Hue Anne]

Is it under Turboresponders?

Since I have 2 Delavo licenses that were
upgraded from F, I did not need the
plug-ins so I didn't look at it.

Donna

[Ray Ashcraft]

Yuzairy,

Thank You for that code.

Sweet.